8chan just leaked multiple user I.P.s after another failed infinity next migration. I'm done with 8chan.
>>138850 Why the fuck do they log everyone's URL requests??? There's not even a need for that. I can understand the posts database being leaked, and then the IPs being shown along with the posts.. but why go the extra step and log every URL accessed by everyone - unless you want to sell people's private data to social data companies? Jim Watkins already has a reputation of selling your data to private companies when he was working with Hiro (4chan current owner) on 2ch. Is that a feature from PHP DebugBar? If not, this is evidence they are datamining 8chan users. People asked in the past for gadmin to show current users on each board, and he said no because that means associating one's IP (since unique user detection has to be done on the IP level, not anon account level) to the URLs they are visiting, and that is bad for privacy, which is exactly the issue here with 8chan. And the IPs were not even encrypted. This looks like serious fuckup, and perhaps a sign that it is more than that. Find out why they are logging that data in the first place. Is that a native feature from php debug or something else, or is that being monitored on purpose and stored somewhere?
>>138855 Jim Watkins/Josh/Hotwheels may be selling user's private data to companies that buy them, same as Hiro is probably doing with 4chan + Hottolink
any threads on 8chan where people are discussing this? Any source of legitimacy to this anywhere?
Welcome then. I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself much more on Masterchan. That is if you don't already go here.
8chan's new layout is so polluted Anyone got more info on this? >>138850 Is it legit? I couldn't find anyone discussing that on 8chan
>>138855 it is the same thing here they log account creations address as well any site that can display "users online now" tracker can basically detect where the connection is coming from extremely detailedly
>>138857 https://8ch.net/n/res/265751.html
>>138857 https://8ch.net/tech/res/495149.html
>>138861 >it is the same thing here It's not. Masterchan logs the IP of users that access the site, as a whole, not as individual URLs. If you access masterchan.org/pc, or masterchan.org/candy, nothing on the database is saved regarding the specific boards you entered in. That is what gadmin mentioned when he said that online counters specific to each boards would expose users IPs regarding what boards they frequently visit. That 8chan log is actually showing what each individual person, each IP, has accessed in terms of specific URLs. Basically, it lets people know whether you are a pedophile or not. If that information is being logged somewhere, like a database or text file: 1) It is a serious privacy issue. Anyone who steals the database or has access to it, now knows what IP and when it accessed an specific content. This is the same as what the NSA does 2) It is an indication that perhaps 8chan logs that data to sell to companies that buy that, which we know exist. Like http://www.hottolink.co.jp/english which is rumored to be associated with Hiro (and personally, I think they were the ones who lend him the money to buy 4chan, as a proxy man)
>>138865 i'd love to believe that is true but you can never be too trusting i am guessing you have some knowledge for web coding so you peeked into where the database is stored on the server?
>users freaking out at webservers working as they were designed
>>138868 >exposing your IP's URL access to everyone else >you shouldn't even log that kind of information in the first place >working as intended
>>138867 >i'd love to believe that is true but you can never be too trusting That's what gadmin says. Anyone got that "trust nobody, not even gadmin" screencap of his post? That's why you can fully post on masterchan through TOR, with proxies and cookies disabled. So you don't have to trust him. 8chan not only blocks TOR on many boards, it now shows evidence that it stores somewhere which pages each IP is viewing. That is an indication that they sell user data, since gathering that statistic servers no purpose other than datamining
>>138871 How exactly is that a violation of rule 1? That was an observation. >>138872 >you shouldn't even log that kind of information in the first place That's how webservers are designed to work. This is why Masterchan is special because it has been designed to protect the user's privacy. I would ask is 8chan even concerned with that? And the answer is an obvious no.
>>138877 >That's how webservers are designed to work. that's a very subjective statement. The way you say it kinda implies that it is a technical necessity, which it is not >>138878 that one
>>138879 >The way you say it kinda implies that it is a technical necessity, which it is not Do you assume that most websites leave it turned off?
The day has come. 8ch is officially burning down. https://8ch.net/b/res/5152662.html
>>138904 >Attention Required! >One More Step So, I'm locked behind an impossible captcha. What is it?
>>138909 Try the hidden service. http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/res/5152662.html
>>138883 >Do you assume that most websites leave it turned off? Leave what turned off? What is turned on by default to begin with?
>>138932 >privacy and anonymous posting is a high priority of 8ch guise! >and we'll log what threads you visit, what boards you enter, at what time, at what day, with your clear fucking IP. >We didn't have to do that in the first place, but we chose to. We chose to do something that is so terribly dangerous for privacy if it leaks or if it is shared behind the curtains, that guess what, it leaked and it fucked people in the ass. But we did that anyway.. because.. well the reason is not important is it? >And we won't sell your personal data. Jim Watkins does not have a history of selling user data. 8chan users need to ask these people very serious questions. An anime-image apology does not even begin to tackle the even that just happened.
https://poal.me/wuwkl7 a hundred 8chan users favorable to migrating to masterchan Remember: good things happen every day
>>138940 I agree we need some more users but I find posts like this so ironic. In a few weeks when they all start posting cancerous threads or stupid replies everyone will say "hurr durr back to 8chan" So do we want them here or to stay? Seems like the opinion changes from thread to thread. Personally I would rather this place move slow then to have most of their posters post here at all.
>>138943 >hurr durr back to 8chan" We'll see back to off topic. Do you guys older 4chan was cancer free? It already had 10x more users than 8chan, and it was better than modern 4chan and 8chan. But old 4chan had good threads between the cancer, that inspired new users and cured everyone's boredom. Cancer can always exist, as well as extreme shitposts (even fucking banana), as long as there is a reserved slot for good posts, and on topic should keep that alive here
>>138943 Same I liked it when it was slow
>>138952 >I liked it when it was slow As masterchan grows, go to the secret board for that secret club, just a few pals feeling
>>138954 Sekrit is too slow theirs literally only 4 posters there
>this porage is too hot >this porage is too cold lmao
>>138856 The new owner has been known to sell users information before with another chan he's been apart of
>>139052 yes, 2ch Hiro probably bought 4chan with money lent from Hottolink (he said himself he borrowed the money to buy 4chan), hottolink being the actual owners, so they can get your data. thread: https://masterchan.org/b/thread/105812
>>138865 Why isn't Masterchan open source yet?
>>139182 So 8ch doesn't steal working code lmao..
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA 8/b/ is wordfiltering Masterchan. What faggots.
>>139186 Well, they don't want their users to learn about the exodus.. We did gain a huge lurker following recently lol
>>139187 I still remember when I crashed masterchan with Nirvanagate. How satisfying.
>>139223 rekd
>>138840 Why the fuck do IPs even matter? It's simple as fuck to change them.
>>138840 That only happened on the beta site not 8chan proper.
>>139249 Not for everybody, some providers use static IPs. Also most providers who use dynamic IPs log them, they know who had which IP at a given time
>>138840 I was reading the tech thread about joshs fuckup: http://8ch.net/tech/res/495149.html#495816 Someone dropped a link to an imgur of screencaps of joshs prior autism.. http://8ch.net/tech/res/495149.html#495816 entertaining read.
>>139182 reminder that an open source site means little, since you don't run the open source code yourself, the server does, and the server owner can just change the code and do malicious thing and you'll never know anyway
>>139253 Yes, but the thing here is that it shows they log every fucking thing you do, including the images you open. Fucking why? There is no need for it, it is a security issue, and the reason can be that they want to sell that information to other people, as we have been mentioning on this thread and even some 8chan users agree with us if you read their threads and the ones that don't agree, they simply don't care, they don't even disagree
>>139186 Replacing it with honeypot is funny too. >site A has FBI-informants running boards >site A disallows tor >site A logs everything you do, even opening an image >site B owner is unknown >site B allows tor >site B at least claims to log IPs for only 24 hours, if at all. >site B is the honeypot.
>>139338 full damage control
>>139275 God you're retarded. IPs appearing in a debug bar != IPs being logged, you fucking spoon
>>139399 Jim, pls.
>>139399 Your argument is then that the debug bar logs all that by default, and once they stop using the debug bar all that information is no longer stored/displayed anywhere? Have you ever used debug bar? Is that indeed its behavior? That's the question that needs to be answered.
>>139399 of course it doesn't, why would anyone even do that? it's not like you can profit from it, right? you don't distrust hotwheels, do you?
http://phpdebugbar.com/docs/all.html A quick look at the phpDebugBar documentation, and it doesn't seem like it collects data on users image clicks or visited URLs >Displays a debug bar in the browser with information from php. No more var_dump() in your code! >with information from php PHP must already be collecting that kind of information for it to be displayed does it not? 8chan developers manually inserted code on infinity to track URLs that users were visiting, and images they opened. I'm sorry but this looks 100% like they are collecting user data to sell it later. There is no need to collect that kind of information from users, especially on an anonymous imageboard. Do you have any actual arguments, related to how phpdebugbar works to counter what I just said?
>php debugbar This is a php debugbar tool. Not an apache/nginx tool, which handles what users access what. If you access an image directly on a server, it won't even go through PHP. For some reason however, opening /b/thumb/file.jpg on 8chan is routing through PHP first.. could this be due to AJAX? >>139183 One link there is just /b/res/513543.html, since nobody opens .html directly, it looks like these are internal PHP redirects being dumped onto the screen (so maybe there are no logs after all). Except some of those requests are a full second apart, and a page would render in less than a second. Unless php debug bar is ajax based and kept updating itself overtime, then those redirections were in fact being logged somewhere. Perhaps only for the php debug bar, perhaps not
>>138856 This is a lie. I know for a fact that Based Hotwheels doesn't have enough computers to sell the data that they collect!
>>139506 I thought 8ch was moved to jims 2channel servers. >Not enough computers. I'm sure it wouldn't take more then one computer. Not that any of that really matters. The real problem here is they had a major security breach, due to incompetence. The point is every ip that accessed infinity next, and every board/page/image they visited was available to the public. tl;dr Josh lied, anonymity died.
>>138855 Welp. Glad to be here and not there.
>>138864 >Someone mentions Masterchan
New 8ch thread. The mods stickyed it lol. https://8ch.net/b/res/5160671.html
>8ch mods sticky other user's IPs no class.
I'm from 8ch, firstly how do you access this shit? Secondly, any major differences between masterchan and 8ch?
>>139894 you can't access it anymore, they removed the debug tool, which they forgot to do in the first place. >major differences between masterchan and 8chan 8chan is like reddit. Anyone can make a board, and the board owners rule supreme, deleting what they don't want. Masterchan lets users make boards too, but board owners (even from official boards like /b/) simply don't have a button to delete user posts, or ban. Mods can't censor not even a single person in here, ever. The tiniest voice will be heard. That's the main difference I'd say
>>139897 so its 8ch without the auto refresh?
>>139899 and without the try hard faggotry that most anons there exude. You can also have a discussion here without people getting really pissed off and calling you faggot and memeing at you the whole time. There is just less shitposting in general
>>139899 it's 8chan/4chan but without mods
>>139902 kk, I got real tired of pol calling anyone with a dissenting opinion a shill. I uh, I guess I'll stay here. How good is the webm support?
>>139905
>>139908 is /b/ also filled with this much pedo shit as usual? I mean I don't judge but it can't be healthy from a law enforcement perspective.
>>139913 Unlike 8ch, pedo content here is not condemned to one thread because hotjew dislikes it
>>139916 hotjew didnt even care but 8chan anons whined about it until there were designated threads. They whined because "the pedo shitposting is why /b/ sucks, they derail every thread and divide us" and so hotwheels gave the pedos their thread. Then it was the ponies. "they are killing /b/ and why we never make oc or have good discussion cause muh derail" and so hotwheels gave them their thread. Now, after all that, anons on 8chan still post meta threads daily asking hotwheels to remove pedos and poies because >they are the cancer killing /b/ They are the type of sensitive autists that CANNOT ignore a thread and go out of their way to let everyone know that they do not like the thread and then do shit like derail it or blame the entire state of their /b/ (which even they admit is horrible and has lost 60 percent of the users in the last 3-4 months) on pony/pedo when they are 2 threads in a catalog of almost 100 different threads. The real irony is that 8chan boomed in popularity with their first major exodus because moot went SJW and censored Gamergate, but the anons that went to 8chan are SJWs. The only difference is they are SJWs who wear fedoras and play video games. They dont care about social justice for feminists, but they are SJWs on many things especially pedos.
>>139921 >but 8chan anons whined about it until there were designated threads. Not according to what I heard anons report in here tho. They said that before 8chan got users from the gamergate exodus, hotjew was even deleting 2D loli for a time. Hotjew is really not someone who cares about freedom nor privacy, but he capitalized on that somehow
Okay lets say you really DID want to get users to come to Master because of a potential honey pot on Infinity. Well for starters: >chan having GOOGLE CAPCHA, you know, made by the one firm that wants to know everything. >Alphabet soup often asking google for info >either fill it out for every post, or fill it once for making an account. >You can post through torn, but must login or fill google capcha (witch is the same) >chan has CP >chan is listed on google >Admin unknown >chan recruits on every other chan >claims to be the better chan >is closed source >not a honeypot >Something illegal can only be removed by one person >one person to filter the traffic of a chan And then there are bait tier threads like >>139223 Expecting not to be banned. Look, the idea of trusting a website and an owner explicitly saying to not trust him seems somewhat promising. I hate the fact that to be somewhat anonymous, I'd have to use a VPN/proxy to shit post on a website or else be labeled a crazy psychotic pedo monster for visiting /v/, but then again in this day and age gadmin seems to make sense. Of course, it could be futile, we could be getting fucked over with a technologically advanced honeypot. So in the end, I guess I'll just stop posting and accept death.
>>140376 >chan has CP nice b8 there is no cp here. Nudism isn't CP. You won't be missed.
>>140377 Implying over half of the images aren't ghosted, and of course nudism isn't CP. Tell that to the rest of the world, or the NSA, or the FBI, or the CIA. >you won't be missed Being realistic faggot. Walk on over to /candy/ and tell me its all just nudism and nothing sexual.
>>140378 If it can be found on purenudism.com its legal. A ghosted image isnt cp either. It may of been deleted for being cp, but this doesn't matter. Every chan has to delete cp when it gets posted, as it does on every chan. If you see anything illegal on /candy, report it. If its illegal it will be deleted. I really don't see what the problem is here.
>>138910 >http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/res/5152662.html I just realized you forgot to put the /b in that link lol FAIL
8chan?
>>140378 they can't arrest you if you haven't broken the law
